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steven short's avatar

Great interview. I find it interesting that he says he was born a Christian. I've never heard religious belief expressed like that before.

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Carola's avatar

Sorry to be so late to post a comment. I was doing some research that expresses how I feel about the teachings of the Catholic Church.

I will not whitewash my disdain and defiance toward the Catholic Church and what it stands for--its thoroughly invalid and arrogant anthropocentric theology/teachings--with apologies to Fr. Martin:

I find Fr. Martin's views, while sincere, to be very similar to the views of Christian apologists regarding the relationship of humans to other animals, as per Genesis: "What's the difference between God granting [man] dominion over every living thing and the U.S. military seeking full-spectrum dominance?" Quote: Derrick Jensen, an American ecophilosopher, writer, author and environmentalist in the anarcho-primitivist tradition.

Throughout Christian history, the style of Western man’s dominion over nature has been that of Genesis 1, and the few sensitive and hopeful souls who have properly recognized the relatively MINOR theme of stewardship have had NO IMPACT ON PUBLIC AFFAIRS WHATEVER. The world is full of Christian apologists who call attention to the stewardship theme in defense of their persuasion, but THEIR RECOGNITION OF IT HAS NEVER PROGRESSED BEYOND THE ACADEMIC STAGE. IT HAS MADE NO IMPRESSION UPON THE “REAL WORLD.” What HAS made an impression is the sense of Genesis 9:2 – “AND THE FEAR OF THEE AND THE DREAD OF THEE SHALL BE UPON EVERY LIVING THING….”

Statement of prejudice

First of all, the Thomist or Roman tradition of moral philosophy, for which animals are effectively things, owed no duties of justice, charity or religion ‘as neither are stocks and stones.’ Rickaby’s view is no more extreme than that expressed by other such writers, save that he even denies that ‘we are bound to any anxious care to make (the pain we cause animals in sport or science) as little as possible.’ Most other writers do make a nominal genuflection in the direction of ‘avoidance of unnecessary suffering’—a caveat recognized as effectively meaningless and irrelevant....

It is only fair to add that there have been zoophiles amongst respected figures of the Roman church, including Cardinal Manning. Cardinal Heenan has expressed the kindlier, though I think still inadequate view, that animals, who have no rights ‘in their own right’, nonetheless have rights as God’s creatures. I anticipate my later discussion by remarking that the view is inadequate not because animals do have rights in their own right, but because nothing does, save as God’s creature. In general, however, the Thomist tradition has helped to hardens men’s hearts…. Source: Stephen R.L. Clark, "The Moral Status of Animals," 1977

GOOD SHEPHERD SHELTER-Mother Cecilia didn't let age or hard work or objections from authorities keep her from the task at hand SOURCE: Cat Fancy Magazine, Feb. 1981

TWENTY YEARS AGO, when she was 71, Mother Cecilia embarked on a new mission—that of animal rescue work. Depending entirely on public support and donations, she established the Good Shepherd Shelter, a 58-acre complex a half-hour’s drive from Victoria, British Columbia, which houses almost 600 abandoned and homeless animals. It is the only such facility in the world operated by nuns.

Word of the shelter’s expansion soon reached the Roman Catholic hierarchy and an emissary was sent to pay a visit to Mother Cecilia. Disturbed by the unorthodoxy of the situation, the Church representative asked which she would choose were she given the alternative between the animals and excommunication. Without hesitating, Mother Cecilia answered, “I would choose excommunication. I certainly would not give up the animal work now.”

Soon after this visit, Mother Cecilia was delivered an ultimatum from the Church officialdom to close the shelter and to return to the convent. Holding firm in her determination not to give up her work with animals, Mother Cecilia made her case public, won community support and continued to operate the shelter…. GOOD FOR HER!

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